
GAVIN FRIDAY
Interview réalisée par Christophe Labussière
« Ecce Homo »
[BMG]
Sorti le 25 octobre 2024
In nine years, from 1977 to 1986, Gavin Friday, along with Virgin Prunes, revolutionized the punk world by laying the foundations of post-punk. Like Throbbing Gristle, they intertwined music, art, subversion, provocation, and experimentation, creating a unique universe. This was a theater of dreamlike visions, venturing to the edges of reality, losing itself in the labyrinths of psychiatry, rooted in Outsider Art and tribal influences. They conceived and crafted their concerts as performances, drawing inspiration from nature and industry, the organic and the material. Virgin Prunes’ records groan, moan, and scream, yet at the same time deliver songs with incredible and, above all, eternal melodies. Nine years that established the alpha and omega of artistic deviance and the so-called "gothic" art movement—the very foundations.
Since then, Gavin Friday has released four magnificent solo albums and has explored worlds where cabaret, French chanson, pop, and poetry coexist. He has paid tribute to Jacques Brel, Édith Piaf, Bertolt Brecht, Oscar Wilde, Kurt Weill, Erik Satie, and even Sergei Prokofiev for "Peter and the Wolf". Most recently, last October, he released his newest album, "Ecce Homo", marking his return thirteen years after his previous record. This album—his best—feels incredibly grounded in its time, offering a myriad of melodies and atmospheres with unparalleled subtlety and quality.
Gavin Friday, the once young, brilliant, and dilettante dandy, now presents himself as a "motherfucker" who still loves what he does. Lucky for us, we love it too. What a pleasure and honor it is to converse with him today, for the second time.
Since then, Gavin Friday has released four magnificent solo albums and has explored worlds where cabaret, French chanson, pop, and poetry coexist. He has paid tribute to Jacques Brel, Édith Piaf, Bertolt Brecht, Oscar Wilde, Kurt Weill, Erik Satie, and even Sergei Prokofiev for "Peter and the Wolf". Most recently, last October, he released his newest album, "Ecce Homo", marking his return thirteen years after his previous record. This album—his best—feels incredibly grounded in its time, offering a myriad of melodies and atmospheres with unparalleled subtlety and quality.
Gavin Friday, the once young, brilliant, and dilettante dandy, now presents himself as a "motherfucker" who still loves what he does. Lucky for us, we love it too. What a pleasure and honor it is to converse with him today, for the second time.
Photo by Barry McCall
I had the chance to meet you in 1995 in Paris, at a very nice hotel near Place de la République, we spent a long time together and took some beautiful photos with our photographer, Stéphane Burlot, when Prémonition was still in print. I’m happy to speak with you again today on the occasion of the release of your new album, "Ecce Homo", but before we talk about it, I’d like you to introduce yourself. When I interview young bands, I often ask them to introduce themselves, to know how they define themselves. I’m going to ask you the same question: imagine you’re with someone who doesn’t know you, how would you introduce yourself so they understand who you are, what kind of man you are—what would you tell them?
I would say I am a 65 year old motherfucker who has been making Music since the late 1970’s, from Virgin Prunes to "Ecce Homo", across many wild terrains and still loving it!
Photo by Stéphane Burlot
We find you with "Ecce Homo", thirteen years after "Catholic", which came out in 2011. How do you "explain" your return? Is it a recent desire to start composing and performing new things again? If so, when did you really start writing again? Or has it been thirteen years of work?
I never really walk the line. I am a very singular Artist and do what my gut / instinct pulls me towards. I am always writing / recording. After "Catholic" tour I ventured into many different projects most of which were underground. Score for movies / bespoke performances some with the late Hal Willner Entourage some with Gavin Bryars Ensemble and the Shakespeare Company. Some events on the works of Bertolt Brecht and a year spent working on the "Casement Sonata" a sound installation on the life of Sir Roger Casement in 2016. Also made / recorded Atonalist Album. And the "Peter and the Wolf" animation. "Ecce Homo" was written on and off from 2016 till 2023 and was delayed in release due to Covid Pandemic. Hope this gives some insight to the last 13 years!
Yes, that's a lot of things! But during these thirteen years, I only found two occasions to hear your voice: indeed, in 2017 with two French artists, Arnaud Fournier and Renaud Pion, on their project Atonalist, for a very beautiful track, and then in 2019 with Annie Hogan for the song "Angels of Romance". Did I miss something? Were you lacking motivation to get back in the game under your own name?
No never lack motivation... As above a lot of work! But I did take time off to care for my dying Mother also. It's been a busy thirteen years. The Atonalist project was with my long term musical partner Renaud Pion who also plays on "Ecce Homo" and will be touring with me.
Photo by Barry McCall
« I see all my work as almost like children: I have no real favourites, I love them all in their own ways! »
You released four solo albums before "Ecce Homo". Which one seems the most "accomplished" to you? Which one would you choose to introduce someone who hasn't listened to any of your work yet?
Cannot answer that as each album so different and means so much in their own way. Too close to "Ecce Homo" to actually be objective. I see all my work as almost like children: I have no real favourites, I love them all in their own ways!
When I listened to "Ecce Homo" for the first time, I instantly loved the single, then I discovered the entire album. I really like it. It starts off splendidly with "LoveSubZero", and the first seconds and its orchestration reminded something like "Peter and the Wolf" maybe (!), with that pleasant female voice, the electronic rhythm that sets in unexpectedly, those subtle sounds in the background that come in midway through the track, also unexpected, and that voice. Your voice. There’s a balance, almost an imbalance, the tension rises from the first track—it's perfect. I feel that this album is very much in tune with the times. I sense a sort of "spirit" in it. The single "Ecce Homo" then bursts in with incredible impact. The album's sound is, for the most part, catchier than what you've done on previous albums; you even dare a few "Wooo!" on "The Church of Love," and there's a clear shift toward a more danceable sound and less of a "Jacques Brel" vibe, to whom you paid a beautiful homage in the past! On "When the World Was Young," new electronic sounds accompany you throughout the track, which is splendid. Later, with "Best Boys in Dublin" and "Lamento," we can feel that you still want to remind people you're a storyteller, that for you, songwriting is also poetry. Can you introduce "Ecce Homo" yourself? The balance between your voice, these sounds, and those almost "dance" vibes (one feels like dancing multiple times), that female voice... What are the guiding principles of this balance?
Their is very much a tangible dance aspect to the electronic sounds on the album. Alot of this comes from the choice of working with Dave Ball from Soft Cell. After the original electronic sessions I brought in more organic /classical instruments like bass clarinets, cello, strings. I would see some of the slower songs you mention like "Lamento" / "When the World was Young" as almost "Chanson française" but in a sci fi way. So Jacques Brel is still in my heart very much a touchstone. The female voices is something I've always wanted to do, that being said, alot of the falsetto voices are not females but mine! Musically the album embraces rage, "Ecce Homo", and joy, "Church of Love".
Photo by Barry McCall
« I see and hear lots from the last fourty years on this album, even Virgin Prunes influence... »
How do you position this new album compared to your rich discography, both with Virgin Prunes and your previous solo albums? Is it a continuation of what you've done before, or is it something new?
Its a continuation of Gavin Friday's musical adventure! I see and hear lots from the last fourty years on this album, even Virgin Prunes influence...
« Not asking anything of the listener other than to take me as I am. »
Photo by Barry McCall
Why the title "Ecce Homo"? Do you want, like Nietzsche, to be understood through this album alone? To finally be understood?
"Ecce Homo" simply means "Behold the Man", inspired by what Pilate said to Christ. For me its simple : here I am, this is where I am now, not asking anything of the listener other than to take me as I am.
« We were so young but spontaneity was at the heart of it all. »
In my opinion, Virgin Prunes is one of the most significant bands among those that have left a lasting mark on music history (ours!). Like Einstürzende Neubauten, Throbbing Gristle, Kraftwerk, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Depeche Mode, or The Cure. Important music, important individuals. Things wouldn't have unfolded the same way without these bands. I deliberately mention a few that are different in their approach and impact, there are obviously others. And Virgin Prunes is clearly one of them. From your perspective, how do you view the impact Virgin Prunes had at the time, and what remains for generations of other artists?
Virgin Prunes... I am so very proud of what we did and look back with great LOVE on what we tried to achieve. We were so young but spontaneity was at the heart of it all. Also not giving a fuck of what others thought. It was a very different world back then. Crazy thing is I see so much of what Virgin Prunes did and wrote that are incredibly relateable in this current age.
Are you aware of the importance Virgin Prunes had for the people who listened to you, for those who wrote music afterward, but also for those who "simply" listened to and felt your music?
Yes I am aware and thank you for your kind words. We were very "Unique".
Last year, you oversaw a new reissue of Virgin Prunes' albums. What was the goal?
They had already been reissued multiple times, but not on streaming services, until we did BMG deal a few years ago. Also they had not got vinyl reissues. So, very happy for these re releases to be out there and there will be more coming next two years.
"...If I Die, I Die" and "A New Form of Beauty" were reissued, but not "The Moon Looked Down and Laughed" (I love that album!). Why?
"The Moon Looked Down and Laughed" will rereleased next year. "Heresie" later this year. One rerelease a year is the plan!
Concerning Virgin Prunes, what do you feel was the most "accomplished" thing you did? And which album or song would you choose to introduce someone who hasn't listened to any of it yet? I want to make sure the younger readers get interested in you!
Again they are all so different and unique in their own way I cannot pick a favourite. "...If I Die I Die" seems like a tangible place for young listeners to start?
How do you imagine "Ecce Homo" will be received? Are you planning concerts, tours? Do you already feel like continuing, or will we have to wait another thirteen years?
So far "Ecce Homo" is getting a very favourable response. Yes, I will be touring in March / April this year and later in Autumn. I will also be releasing more new songs next year. No longer but long gaps! I have too much i want to do musically!
Thank again Gavin for the time you're giving me!
Thank you!
Photo by Barry McCall
UPCOMING CONCERTS:
Sunday March 30, Utrecht, Tivoli Vredenburg
Tuesday, April 1, Gent, De Vooruit
Sunday, April 6, Londres, Earth Theatre
TO EXTEND THE PLEASURE:
"Ecce Homo"
"Stations of the Cross"
"When the World was Young"
Gavin Friday et Atonalist "The Road to Perdition" (2017)
Gavin Friday et Annie Hogan "Angels Of Romance" (2019)
Sunday March 30, Utrecht, Tivoli Vredenburg
Tuesday, April 1, Gent, De Vooruit
Sunday, April 6, Londres, Earth Theatre
TO EXTEND THE PLEASURE:
"Ecce Homo"
"Stations of the Cross"
"When the World was Young"
Gavin Friday et Atonalist "The Road to Perdition" (2017)
Gavin Friday et Annie Hogan "Angels Of Romance" (2019)
